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Turbo6: Pope or papa, or Bishop of Rome--just semantics (general)

posted by bibleprobe(R) Homepage, Mass., 10.30.2009

I'm sorry you think you know better than the Apostles and early Church fathers who walked and talked with the apostles, and were taught by them, vis-a-vis "infant baptism"... I may be entirely wrong, but I'll go out on a limb here and ask: "Are you a Seventh Day Adventist"?

Peter was the Bishop of Rome. Title Pope didn't come into being for a very long time after Peter. But it is quite clear that Peter was looked up to as the leader of the Church outside of Jerusalem (James was the leader in Jerusalem). Their is a clear line of succession after Peter. Bishops of Rome did choose their successors. Linus was likely the 2nd Bishop of Rome after Peter. This (succession) is rather clear to anyone who has ever studied Church History and from statements by Irenaeus. I'm not going to say, that these Pope's were always honest. Some were even scoundrels. And the succession gets mirky around 900 AD-1100 AD. But that isn't the question here.

At one time we were all known as "Catholic". Which really means the "Universal Christian Church"...

You can call them Pope's, or Bishops of Rome, or prominent presbyter-bishop. It's semantics...

The Apostolic Church Elder Irenaeus claims that Pope Linus is the Linus mentioned by St. Paul in his 2 Timothy 4:21. The passage by Irenaeus (Adv. haereses, III, iii, 3) reads:

"After the Holy Apostles (Peter and Paul) had founded and set the Church in order (in Rome) they gave over the exercise of the episcopal office to Linus. The same Linus is mentioned by St. Paul in his Epistle to Timothy. His successor was Anacletus."

67 AD Peter martyred, crucified upside down in Rome
67-78 Pope Linus, 2nd Pope, succeeds Peter (Linus mentioned in 2 Tm 4,21). Tertullian names Clement (Catholics know him as Saint Clement) to have been the first successor to the apostle Peter, but all other accounts unanimously have Linus as the first bishop of Rome following the apostle Peter. The Vatican's "Annuario Pontificio" (2003) cites the year 68. The discrepancy may be explained by Linus already being Peter's adjutor during his lifetime. Dorotheus, Bishop of Tyre, writing in the 3rd century writes about Linus: "whom the apostle mentions in his epistle to the Romans, was bishop of Rome after the holy apostle Peter."

79-91 Pope Anacletus, 3rd Pope, known as "blameless" (as in Titus 1,7?)

91-101 Pope Clement I, 4th Pope, (mentioned in Phil 4,3), wrote letter to Corinth in 95 called "1 Clement"

314-335 Pope Silvester I, 33rd Pope --probably around when word "Pope" or (Latin for "papa") was first used.

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