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easter vs passover (general)

posted by bibleprobe1(R), 03.24.2008
(edited by bibleprobe1 on 04.05.2008)

Szuch77

Yes, Messianic Jews and Christians are the same spiritual people. I'd consider Messianic Jews as "Spiritual Israel", perhaps among the 144,000. Non-believing Jews I look on as "cousins", who I am forever grateful for carrying knowledge of the Lord and the Old Testament down through the ages --in defiance of Satan's many roadblocks.

Jews are not believers so they are not the same "spiritual people". God is dealing with the non Yeshua believing Jews separately in a supernatural way. I point to the banishment by the Romans, the destruction of Jerusalem, and perhaps even the pogroms and the holocaust itself, for how God is dealing with this "stiff necked" people who rejected their own Messiah. We know why they were earlier banished to Babylon.

Yet, God has a Covenant with the Jewish people. He will never abandon them. He has Michael the Archangel watching over them. Thank God for that, because it's quite apparent that George Bush and C. Rice aren't looking out for Israel's interests. Ever since Jimmie Carter (and even back to FDR), America has acted like a whore regarding the apple of God's eye, his Covenant people.

In case you missed it I'll give it here for a 4th time. I am not a "children of Israel". As we know, the "Lost Sheep of Israel" was their Messiah's (Mashiach ben David) main focus/ministry.

Therefore the children of Israel shall keep the Sabbath, to observe the Sabbath throughout their generations as a perpetual covenant. It is a sign between Me and the children of Israel forever; for in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, and on the seventh day He rested and was refreshed (Exodus 31:1617). Note: It says; "the children of Israel.

In Deuteronomy 5, Moses restates the ten commandments to the next generation of Israelites. Here, after commanding Sabbath observance in verses 1214, Moses gives the reason the Sabbath was given to the nation Israel: "And remember that you were a slave in the land of Egypt, and the Lord your God brought you out from there by a mighty hand and by an outstretched arm; therefore the Lord your God commanded you (Israelites) to keep the Sabbath day" (Deuteronomy 5:15). (Note: Moses tells us, the Sabbath was given to the nation of Israel).

Daniel's prophecy - Gospel switches to the Gentiles.

After 490 years exactly to the day, the Gentiles became the main focus because the Jews had missed the time of their own visitation.

GOSPEL SWITCHES TO THE GENTILES AFTER 70th WEEK OF DANIEL

"National Rejection"
The second 3.5 years of the "70th week" was also given to the Jews as a second chance (Acts 1-6), but this 7 years of ministry officially ended when the Jewish Sanhedrin (highest Jewish office) rejected Jesus and His Gospel a second time and they stoned Stephen. Immediately the 70th week ended, and the Gospel then went to the Gentiles. You will recall also, that the great Jewish man named Paul was "recruited" at the end of this 7 years to minister to the Gentiles. His name was changed from the Jewish Saul to the Gentile Paul (Romans 11:13) which signified the new focus. Also, at this time God gave Peter a vision indicating it was now time to preach to the Gentiles (Acts 10:1-28). This has nothing to do with any bogus "replacement theory". God has an unbreakable 1-sided Covenant with the Jews.

Regarding the "abomination of desolation". Jesus was either speaking of the time in 70 AD when his followers were to flee Jerusalem, because the Roman armies under Titus would attack Jerusalem and destroy the 2nd Temple. In Matthew 24:15 Jesus told His followers, "When you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies (Roman armies) then know that its desolation is near". Why did this happen? In Matthew 23-38 Jesus told the Pharisees: "See! Your house is left to you desolate". That's because of the "abominations" of the Pharisees. Interesting enough, we know from history that Christians took the Lord's advice and had left the city. 1 million Jews were massacred in Jerusalem under Titus. But no Christians were ever reported to have been killed in Jerusalem during that ugly period. So, likely they heeded the Lord's warning to flee.

Or, a better candidate for this is that Jesus was speaking of the pagan monstrosity that sits atop the top of the Temple Mount even today. Of course I am speaking of the Dome of the Rock, built during the 685 to 705 AD period. Jewish Rabbis know this structure makes the temple mount desolate.

An "abomination" is a sin committed before the face of God that causes God to spew the sinner out of His presence. Abominations can only be committed by those who have near access to God, particularly priests but more generally the whole of Israel as the priestly people. When Israel is guilty of "abominations," they are in danger of "desolations." Pharisees and scribes had been putting stumbling blocks ("scandals") in the way of the "little ones" of Israel. The Pharisees were guilty of mocking Jesus and His teachings. Though the Pharisees try to make themselves appear righteous before God, they are in fact abominable. Addressing His disciples, Jesus warns them in very strong terms not to follow their example: Better that they were drowned in the sea, than to cause one to sin.

JEWISH SCHOLARS FAILED MISERABLY IN THE 1st CENTURY:
They failed to see that Jesus Christ was the one predicted by Daniel and He would die in the middle of the 70th week, per Daniel 9:27.

The challenge to us right now, is the same challenge the 1st century Jews had in vis--vis the coming of the Messiah. In retrospect, we wonder how the devout leadership of Israel could have missed these clear signs from prophecy, especially Daniel's prophecy. Yet they did. It wasnt that these Jews were not on the lookout and watching for the signs given in Torah. They were just looking for the wrong kind of signs. They thought there would be something sensational. The Jews of this time wanted a sign from Heaven. What they got was the Word of God, the 2nd person of the Triune God, the builder of heaven and earth Himself. Yet the heavens did give amazing signs also. I recommend you see the scientific documentary on DVD called "The Star of Bethlehem".

THE BOOK OF DANIEL IS AWESOME! It was written by Daniel from a prophecy the angel Gabriel gave him while he and the Jews were undergoing their exile in Babylon. It tells the Jews that God had given them a second chance to return to Israel and rebuild their Temple to get ready to ultimately receive their Messiah (Jesus Christ). It is an actual blueprint to the day Jesus would ride into Jerusalem on a donkey, and the first day (Psalm Sunday) Jesus (a son of David) would allow them to proclaim Him King -- the actual day He would die on the cross - to the actual day (end of 70th week-3.5 years after His crucifixion) that the door would slam shut on the Jews.

DANIEL 9:24-27:

Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

 


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