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Understanding LEGALISM (general)

posted by Zedinhim(R), 02.17.2016

Fezik>>”I disagree with you on this topic as I see refusal to submit to authority as a rejection of Christ's Kingdom.”

But, but, refusal to reject false authority is a rejection of Christ's Kingdom. Tell me If your authority told you to sing praises to satan would you submit in fear of rejecting Christ’s Kingdom, that may sound bizarre but it is happening in your headquarters, Vatican city.

Fezik>>” but what I really wanted to mention is that all of the comments about the Catholic Church not letting members read the Bible are bologna.”

The book by Charles E. Newbold, Jr is not selective; he is addressing all churches with a warning against falsehood within. He quoted what Lillie said or rather Lillie’s testimony, take note what Lillie actually said. “At that time the Catholic church did not encourage its members to read the Bible. That was left to the priests." Notice that she was talking about a time in the past, and if you still think that is bologna, then you need to check your history books.
And no there was no “deliberate dishonesty” as you put it!

Please notice the following quotes from Catholic sources: hopefully an eye opener for you.
"Since it is clear from experience that if the Sacred Books are permitted everywhere and without discrimination in the vernacular (in the common language of the people, D.R.) there will by reasons of the boldness of men arise there from more harm than good..." (Canons and Decrees of the Council of Trent, p. 274).
"As it has been clearly shown by experience that, if the holy Bible in the vernacular is generally permitted without any distinction, more harm than utility is thereby caused..." (Great Encyclical Letters of Leo XIII, pp. 412-413).
"In early times the Bible was read freely by the lay people...New dangers came in during the Middle Ages...To meet those evils, the Council of Toulouse (1229) and Terragona (1234) forbade the laity to read the vernacular translations of the Bible. Pius IV required bishops to refuse lay persons leave to read even Catholic versions of Scripture unless their confessors or parish priests judged that such reading was likely to prove beneficial." (Catholic Dictionary, p. 82). (Addis and Arnold, The Catholic Publications Society Co., N.Y., 1887)

No religious institution on earth has as much to fear about its members reading the Bible as the catholic church. When catholics study the Bible they learn that in order to please God, they must discard the many false doctrines which their church has accumulated over the centuries. Following is an excerpt from an address given by the cardinals to pope Pius III, and is preserved in the National Library in Paris, Folio No. 1068, Vol. 2, pp. 650-651:
"Of all the advice that we can offer your holiness we must open your eyes well and use all possible force in the matter, namely to permit the reading of the gospel as little as possible in all the countries under your jurisdiction. Let the very little part of the gospel suffice which is usually read in mass, and let no one be permitted to read more. So long as people will be content with the small amount, your interest will prosper; but as soon as the people want to read more, your interest will fail. The Bible is a book, which more than any other, has raised against us the tumults and tempests by which we have almost perished. In fact, if one compares the teaching of the Bible with what takes place in our churches, he will soon find discord, and will realize that our teachings are often different from the Bible, and oftener still, contrary to it.

Wow, now that speaks volumes about who she (Rome) really is.

Fezik>>” covering the entire Bible (minus genealogies) over the course of three years.”

No need for me to call, a quick look at “THE ROMAN CATHOLIC LECTIONARY WEBSITE” says >> “However, since many parts of the Bible (esp. the Old Testament) are still not included in the Lectionary, one must go beyond the readings used at Mass to cover the entire Bible.”
This 3 year LECTION cycle covering just 13.5% OT and 71.5% NT. So what,... does that mean it repeats every 3 years? Ever missing the rest 60-70% of the Bible? Did you say” covering the entire Bible (minus genealogies).” Let’s hear the quote of cardinals to pope Pius III again “Let no one be permitted to read more.” So that means majority of R catholics around the world might get a small, limited and very controlled portion of scripture!!! Hmmm.

Fezik said>> He was sinless not because His sins were not counted against Him, but because He lived according to the Spirit.

WHAT!!! Do your superiors teach you that Christ had sins??? (Run Fezik run...) Hebrew 4:15 “This High Priest of ours understands our weaknesses, for he faced all of the same testings we do, yet He did not sin.”........No Fezik, He had no sins, He never sinned!!!!

Fezik>>” but despite the view that we are utterly incapable of displeasing God once we have been 'saved,”

Here we go again, so is this another teaching from your Roman catholic church dictators? Let me try to get my head around this statement. If a sex deprived Roman catholic priest sexually interferes with a child, are you saying that God is pleased with him, maybe even a smile toward him? What sort of nutty teaching are they polluting your mind with?

Fezik>>” You should feel guilt when you willingly disobey the Spirit.”

LOL, now your trying to shift guilt on me, when I’m just the messenger.

How about you post some truth in the future, for a change, as I lose interest in your posts real fast.


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