for Christians & Messianic Jews
Non-denominational
Home

Forum index page

"For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life." John 3:16

Pro Rege (For the King)

         

Log in | Register
Forgot your password?





   

Re: good deeds (general)

posted by fezik82(R), Ohio, 10.10.2014
(edited by fezik82 on 10.10.2014)

For anyone who chooses to answer, my wording is poor but my question is sincere... I simply can't understand this. If Christ's sacrifice automatically covered all sins and there is no contribution on our part to choose good over evil... if we do not participate in 'choosing' good deeds over bad, but all acts are as simple as God working through us, then wouldn't God be teaching every believer the exact same doctrines? Wouldn't being 'saved' mean the same thing for me as it does for all others... that we are all led into "all truth" (John 16:13)? Which of us are not believers if God's work is finished and I'm left believing different doctrines than you? Isn't it even just a little absurd the God would be so divided and contradictory? If believing automatically classified us as 'saved' and 'in truth', then why is my 'truth' so much different from the 'truth' of the believers in the 'once saved, always saved' doctrine? Or from the truth of those who deny the body and blood of Christ in the Eucharist? If we are all being forced by God to be good people, would this imply that we have no free will? Do you really believe that you have no choice in the matter? I say God given grace and faith lead to the decision to tell God, 'yes, I will obey you'... others believe that they have no part to play, and I can't help but to think of it as though we are just God's real life ventriloquist puppets. If that were the case, it seems that the New Testament could be summed up into a chapter or so... just enough to convince us to believe that Jesus is real... that He died and rose again. I don't see the point in the rest of it if that's all we need to know? Through Paul, He said that we will not be brought back into repentance if we turn away from Him after tasting the heavenly gift and having shared in the Holy Spirit (Hebrews 6:1-6)... would that seem like some sort of sick game that God would be playing if He was the one who worked through them to lead them away from Him? It seems that would be the case if the Spirit was in complete control of our actions after receiving Him. It would be as though He created certain ones only to give them a life of misery and an eternity of torture... that is not my God. I mean this from the bottom of my heart, that sounds like a heretical version of God. My only real question here is... am I misunderstanding the people who describe 'faith alone'?

---
I asked The Lord how much He loved me

He stretched out His arms and said, "this much"

Then He died for me

 


Complete thread:

                                                                              
                                                      
for Christians & Messianic Jews | Admin contact                   
13930 Postings in 4301 Threads, 163 registered users
[ Home ] [ Rules ] [ Gospel ] [ World News ] [ Israel News ] [ Online Bible ] [ Gays ] [ Abortion ] [ Masons ]

[ Jesus ][ Islam ][ Miracles ][ Near Death ][ Creationism ][ Bible Codes ] New Age ][ Israel ]

 [
Christian Music ] [ Israel Video News ] [ [ Funny clips ] [ Games ]
 

other interesting sites:

(Apocalypse Board) (Answers in Genesis) (Spirit Daily) (Mallett Blog) (Parable of Lazarus) (23 min video in Hell) (Amil Imani) (1 hr Video on Hell) (Israel Travel Guide)  (TraditionalValues.org) (FakeMessiah.com) (Israelitybites) [Jesus paid for our debt] [26 End times signs]
 

Above hits since 19 April 2011
(red dots show where visitors are from)