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Baptism of The Holy Spirit? (baptism)

posted by matthew7, 01.03.2007

I know Im a little late but I just could not help but repond.

First of all Baptism is necessary. Baptisim of the HOLY SPIRIT.
You can go in a dry sinner and come up a wet one if you do not have FAITH.
It is buy faith and faith alone you are saved.

Even though numerous Scriptures speak of the importance of water baptism, adding anything to the work of the cross demeans the sacrifice of the Savior. It implies that His finished work wasnt enough. But the Bible makes clear that we are saved by grace, and grace alone,

For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast."
--Ephesians 2:8-9

Baptism is simply a step of obedience to the Lord following our repentance and confession of sin. Our obedience--water baptism, prayer, good works, fellowship, witnessing, etc.--issues from our faith in Christ. Salvation is not what we do, but Who we have.

"He that has the Son has life; and he that has not the Son of God has not life"
--1 John 5:12

As to the infant baptism. Whatever way you choose to look at it baptism is for the forgiveness of sin, period. Since babies do not know sin why then must you baptize them. If you feel it should be done by all means baptize all in water for it wont hurt anything. It just is not necessary. Faith is.
shelah

Matthew7





This is one subject that I have been going back and fourth with.
Can any of you help me with this? But please provide scripture as
proof. Thanks.

Now my question is when we recieve Jesus we get the Holy SPirit at that
time right? I did. Now is there another baptism of the Holy Spirit that
some thinks? If so please provide scripture.

John tells us that Jesus will baptise with the Spirit and with Fire.

So what say you all. And please be kind to this old man. LOL I am only 45.
LOL


Is Baptism Necessary?

Yes! Because Jesus said it is...

John 3:5
Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be
born
of water and of the Spirit
, he cannot enter into the kingdom of
God.

In Mark 16:16 Jesus says, "He that believeth and is baptized
shall
be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned."

Acts 2:38
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of
you

in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall
receive
the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Peter said; "every one of you"! That means infants too!


What about Infant Baptism?

If you love your child, you will Baptize your child now, as an infant!

If you belong to a denomination who falsely teaches that a child should
only be baptized after they have reached an age of reasoning, you are
not
following the Apostolic tradition, and you are actually being cruel to
your child, should anything happen to them before they are baptized.
What
I am saying here is that the apostles sprinkled or poured water over
everyone, including infants. That is an apostolic tradition.

Mothers, baptize your babies now before it is too late. They can
always
decide themselves to do a 2nd baptism when they reach their age of
reasoning. You can baptize your child yourself, together with another
Christian witness. Do it solemnly, while sprinkling or pouring water
over
your baby, and saying; "I baptize you in the name of the Father, the
Son,
and the Holy spirit". If you prefer, you can dunk an older child.
Then
serve cake and ice cream if you like. Because this is a joyful event.


From the beginning of New Testament Christianity at the Feast of
Pentecost
(Acts 2: 38-39) to our time, unbroken and uninterrupted; the church has
baptized babies. Entire households (Jewish, proselytes and Gentiles)
were
baptized by Christs original 12 Apostles (I Corinthians 1: 16; Acts
11:
14, 16: 15, 33, 18: 8) and that practice has continued with each
generation.

Augustine (354 - 430 AD), writing about this time in De Genesi Ad
Literam,
X: 39, declares, "The custom of our mother church in baptizing
infants
must not be . . . accounted needless, nor believed to be other than a
tradition of the apostles
."

Read this excellent article by Lutheran Pastor Dennis Kastens on
"infant baptism" all the way back to the Apostles
:
here

 


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