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Ray(R)

Ontario, Canada,
10.27.2009
 

cross controversy (general)

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Here's a situation where there is no cross, but because it resembles a cross, people have objected.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,569665,00.html

Ray
bibleprobe(R)

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Mass.,
10.28.2009

@ Ray

cross controversy

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30,000 shirts sold and only 6 complaints. Give those 6 a shirt free. That's what I'd do. All praise be to Jesus/Yeshua. Ya must keep your eye on His cross.

Jesus wasn't just a no name Penn State student. He was the Son of God, and God Himself. He did no little thing by suffering and dying on that cross for us... For a totally innocent 3rd of the ONE and only God to suffer and die, because He loved us --is a big deal. All that was made, both seen and unseen, was made by Him. Yet He lowered Himself; and took our sins on Himself like a korben (sacrificial lamb); so that we who believe and follow Him can live.
Timotiyos(R)

11.06.2009

@ Ray

cross controversy

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Yes, there is no such thing like "cross" as recorded in Hebrew text and Greek translated tax.

I could share with anyone who could provide an email and send the publication by Institute for Scripture Research. This Institute started to research in 1971.
fezik82(R)

Ohio,
11.06.2009

@ Timotiyos

cross controversy

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I believe that you are correct in believing that "stauros" could also mean upright pole, or stake. The stake was a means of impalement in some cultures, but it is not historically accurate to believe that this is the way that Christ died. Had His hands been above His head, doctors confess that He would have suffered asphyxiation in under 4 minutes. With the arms extended, many were hoisted between the legs to prolong agony... approximately to 3 hours. Christ suffered for 3 hours on the cross.

The nail used was like a railroad tie. There was one nail per hand, yet Thomas states that He will not believe that it was Christ that the other disciples saw unless he sees the holes in His hands from the "nails" (John 20:25).
John 21:18,19... Peters arms were stretched out. He died on a cross.
Matthew 27:37... the sign was above His head, not His hands.

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Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
~~Matthew 22:37
                                                                              
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