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bibleprobe1(R)

08.19.2008
 

Obama says; "We are no longer a Christian nation" Let's prove him wrong! (politics)

This came to me from a Christian woman in Orlando. She wants to rally Christians to vote against Obama in November. You will see what motivated her to do this.

"As I was listening to a news program last night, I watched in horror as Barack Obama made the following statement with great pride: "We are no longer a Christian nation; we are now a nation of Christians, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists."

As with so many other statements I've heard Obama and his wife Michelle make, I never thought I'd see the day that I'd hear such things from a presidential candidate in the United States of America.

Just to think, our forefathers fought and died for the right for America to be a Christian nation--and then to have this man say with pride that we are no longer under Christ, but under the anti-Christian religions as well. How far this nation has come from what our founding fathers meant it to be. I hope that each of you will do what I'm doing now--send your concerns to the Christians on your email list.

With God's help, we can show this man in November that multitudes still want America to be a Christian nation! He will know that for sure when he sees the Christian vote tallying against him. God Bless Us All,Pray for America!!! This is a crucial crossroads for Believers.

bibleprobe1(R)

08.19.2008
(edited by bibleprobe1, 08.20.2008)

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The night that changed McCain's life

Did I tell you, McCain's carrier; USS ORISKANY (known then as the "Mighty O") was my first carrier I was oboard (after him) --in the Gulf of Tonkin, in the early 1970's? Fighter Squadron 191 (Satan's Kittens) Steve

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The night that changed McCain's life

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- It was September 1967, and Lt. Cmdr. John McCain was back from Vietnam on home leave. He invited Chuck Larson over for dinner, and during a late night game of bridge, McCain pulled his buddy from the U.S. Naval Academy and flight school aside.

Larson recalls being stunned at what he heard.

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"You know Chuck, I might have to get out of the Navy," McCain told him. "And I said, 'Why is that John?' and he said, 'Well I want to be a serious naval officer. And when I go places now, people tend to not take me seriously. They hear all the stories, they look at the early days and if they can't take me seriously, I don't know how I can perform.' And I said, 'John, you're going back.' "

A few weeks later, McCain reported for duty on the USS Oriskany and, as he did on his previous assignment on the USS Forrestal, began flying bombing missions over North Vietnam.

October 26, 1967, was McCain's 23rd mission. His target was a power plant on the outskirts of Hanoi.

"I was still in the dive, I had just started to pull out and got hit by a surface-to-air missile, and it basically took the wing off the aircraft," McCain told CNN in one of a series of conversations for "McCain Revealed." "And so I was gyrating very violently, almost straight down, so I had to eject very quickly."

Retracing McCain's steps in Vietnam was a fascinating experience. On the shores of Ho Truc Bach -- White Bamboo Lake -- we spent time with Nguyen Dang Doanh, who said he was on the far side of the lake that morning when he saw a parachute splash down in the water.

McCain was "stretched out -- he was lifted by the life jacket," Doanh said. "Then we all pushed him here [to the edge of the lake] and the security forces surrounded him. .. At that point everyone in the village was here. Everyone came down to see the American pilot."

Nguyen Thi Tranh was a nurse on duty at a neighborhood first aid station that day. Its purpose was to treat local residents hurt in the American bombardment, but Tranh remembers the day more than four decades ago when police came in carrying a white-haired American pilot.

Tranh, now 82 and living in a modest home not far from the lake, told us she bandaged McCain's arms and one leg. She said she "hated the American pilots" because of the deaths and destruction caused by their bombing runs, but she viewed it as her job and her duty to help treat him.

She would later learn that the man who was in her care for 15 or 20 minutes that day became a politician after he returned to the United States. "Would you like him to be president of the United States?" we asked Tranh.

"That depends on the U.S. people. I don't know," Tranh said.

Another Vietnamese official who had close contact with McCain in those days did express hope the Arizona senator wins the election.

Tran Trong Duyet was the director of the Hoa Lo prison, known as the notorious "Hanoi Hilton" to American POWs, from 1968 to 1973. He has kept track of McCain's political career, and said he admires the man once in his custody because of his work to push the United States, during the Clinton administration, to normalize relations with Vietnam.

As for his prison days, Duyet said in his conversations with McCain, "He would never admit the United States made a mistake in the war. ... Therefore I say John McCain is an extremely conservative man. He was loyal to his ideology."

The low point for McCain came in 1968, before his transfer to the Hanoi Hilton. In his own accounts of those days, McCain wrote that after four days of beatings -- including a re-breaking of his left arm -- he signed a confession admitting to war crimes.

"I wasn't as tough as I had hoped to be and I certainly wasn't as strong as some of my comrades," McCain said.

The Vietnamese knew his father was the admiral commanding U.S. forces in the Pacific, and they offered McCain early release. But he refused, on grounds the code of conduct instructed that prisoners be released in the order in which they had been captured.

"There was a correlation between my refusal to accept early release and my treatment," McCain told us. "Because after it was clear to the Vietnamese I would not do that, then the treatment got very much worse."

Finish reading this at: CNN

McCain told the following "cross in the sand" story most recently on Saturday night, at the Saddleback Civil Forum hosted by Rick Warren of Purpose Driven Life fame:

"The Vietnamese kept us in prison in conditions of solitary confinement, or two or three to a cell. They did that because they knew they could break down our resistance. One of the techniques that they used to get information was to take ropes and tie them around your biceps, loop the rope around your head and pull it down beneath your knees and leave you in that position. You can imagine it's very uncomfortable. One night, I was being punished in that fashion. All of sudden the door of the cell opened and the guard came in. The guy who was just -- what we call the gun guard -- just walked around the camp with the gun on his shoulder. He went like this and loosened the ropes. He came back about four hours later and tightened them up again and left. The following Christmas, because it was Christmas day, we were allowed to stand outside of our cell for a few minutes. In those days we were not allowed to see or communicate with each other, although we certainly did. And I was standing outside, for my few minutes outside at my cell. He came walking up. He stood there for a minute, and with his sandal on the dirt in the courtyard, he drew a cross and he stood there. And a minute later, he rubbed it out, and walked away. For a minute there, there was just two Christians worshipping together. I'll never forget that moment."

A moving anecdote, and, as it happens, politically useful for a candidate eager to demonstrate his Christian credentials. And McCain told the story almost exactly the same way in his book, "Faith of My Fathers,'' published in 1999, when he was first running for president, about a guard who had periodically loosened his ropes approaching him one Christmas. This is what McCain wrote then:

"He walked up and stood silently next to me. Again, he didn't smile or look at me. He just stared at the ground in front of us. After a few moments had passed he rather nonchalantly used his sandaled foot to draw a cross in the dirt. We both stood wordlessly looking at the cross until, after a minute or two, he rubbed it out and walked away. I saw my good Samaritan often after the Christmas when we venerated the cross together. But he never said a word to me nor gave the slightest signal that he acknowledged my humanity.''

bibleprobe1(R)

08.19.2008
(edited by bibleprobe1, 08.23.2008)

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Barak Hussein Obama: aka: Barry Soetoro, Muslim. Indonesian?

Manchurian candidate?

Has anyone ever asked, if this guy isn't a Muslim, then why on earth did he change his name from a western sounding name like Barry Soetoro, to a distinctly Muslim sounding name (Barack Hussein Obama)?

Don't all you people out there know that in Islam, it is okay to lie -so long as it furthers the cause of Islam. Islam's goal is nothing less than to enslave the entire world under that demonically-inspired religion and their evil mullahs. As we speak, the Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC), the largest lobbying body of nations, is pushing a sinister resolution at the U.N. called "Combating Defamation of Religions". It's an anti-Christian measure and it clearly endorses what's taking place in Muslim countries --where those who even speak out against Islam are severely punished with imprisonment and even death. We are now witnessing worldwide persecution of Christians as part of the radical Muslim mission to "take the world for Islam" - by purging Christianity from the face of the earth. Read "Muhammad, Terrorist or Prophet?"

Obama was Barry Soetoro during his school days in Muslim Indonesia...

19 months ago: This registration document, made available on Jan. 24, 2007, by the Catholic Fransiskus Assisi school in Jakarta, Indonesia, shows the registration of Barack Obama under the name Barry Soetoro into the Catholic school made by his step-father, Lolo Soetoro. The document lists Barry Soetoro as a Indonesian citizen, born on August 4, 1961 in Honolulu, and shows his Muslim step-father listed the boy's religion as Islam.(AP Photo/ Tatan Syuflana)

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Was young Obama Indonesian citizen?

Document, travel suggest 'Barry Soetero' member of world's largest Muslim country

Posted: August 17, 2008
8:18 pm Eastern


By Aaron Klein
© 2008 WorldNetDaily

Indonesian school registration for "Barry Soetoro" (AP photo)

JERUSALEM – Was Sen. Barack Obama a citizen of Indonesia at any point in his life?

That question has been circulating on the blogosphere with increased fury the past few days, since a photograph emerged of Obama's school registration papers as a child in Indonesia – the world's most populous Muslim nation – showing the presidential candidate listed as a "Muslim" with "Indonesian" citizenship.

An investigation into Indonesian citizenship law and a review of Obama's biography and travels suggest the Illinois senator at one point may have been a citizen of Indonesia. That would not necessarily disqualify Obama to run for president, but it could raise loyalty concerns.

A 2007 Associated Press photograph taken by Tatan Syuflana, an Indonesian AP reporter and photographer, surfaced last week on the Daylife.com photographic website showing an image of Obama's registration card at Indonesia's Fransiskus Assisi school, a Catholic institution.

In the picture, Obama is registered under the name Barry Soetoro by his stepfather, Lolo Soetoro. The school card lists Barry Soetoro as a Indonesian citizen born Aug. 4, 1961, in Honolulu, Hawaii. His religion is listed as Muslim.

Jack Stokes, manager of media relations for the AP, confirmed to WND the picture is indeed an AP photo.

After attending the Assisi Primary School, Obama later was enrolled at SDN Menteng 1, an Indonesian public school.

Obama's campaign did not return repeated WND phone calls and e-mail queries the past week asking for a clarification regarding the school documentation listing the presidential candidate's citizenship as Indonesian.

Obama spokesmen have stated the candidate is a natural-born citizen amid rumors he may have been born in his father's home country of Kenya, but the campaign has not addressed whether Obama became a citizen of Indonesia at any point.

Finish reading this at: Jerusalem Post

bibleprobe1(R)

08.20.2008
(edited by bibleprobe1, 08.20.2008)

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No real answers from liberals why Barack Hussein Obama is not ahead

No real answers from liberals why Barack is not ahead

Yesterday I asked liberals to explain to me why Barack Obama is not ahead in the polls. Previous Democrat Presidential candidates have all been leading their Republican opponents at this point in the election, but that is not the case for the Democrat saviour — Obama. He has huge money advantage and the media might as well be on his campaign staff. So why he is behind where John Kerry was 4 years ago?

I did not get any good answers. Some liberals suggested that we should discard the polls, but not all of the data collected from multiple sources can be wrong. Others wanted to talk about Barack’s advantage with money, but that was not the question. Everyone knows Democratic donors are highly motivated right now. (If money was always the determining factor, then Senator Phil Gramm would have been President and McCain would not have won the Republican Primary this year.)

Here are a few reasons I believe that Barack is in trouble:

1. His rally in Germany was arrogant. He is not our President and the people in Germany don’t vote in this election.

2. Barack has come across like Jimmy Carter when discussing his energy policy and telling Americans to cut back on food and vacations.

3. Obama is over exposed in the media. Like Paris Hilton, Americans are sick of him and his every little movement during the day.

Finish reading at: Boston Herald

Above from Holly's Blog.
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Holly Robichaud, The Lone Republican in the Herald's Monday Morning Briefing, is a successful GOP political strategist who is known for speaking her mind. Holly is not having a good day unless she is making a big government liberal miserable.

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Poll: McCain Has 5-Point Lead Over Obama

bibleprobe1(R)

08.21.2008

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Get ready for another Obama exposé - 'The Audacity of Deceit'

Get ready for another Obama exposé
'The Audacity of Deceit' to hit streets in 2 weeks

Posted: August 21, 2008
1:00 am Eastern

© 2008 WorldNetDaily

WASHINGTON – Is the other shoe about to drop?

Can Barack Obama take another body slam in the form of a best-selling exposé?

Will the latest in a trifecta of revealing books leave him on the political ropes?

The presidential candidate survived Jerome Corsi's "Obama Nation" and David Freddoso's "The Case Against Barack Obama" – though he is bloodied and bruised and taking a dive in the polls.

Now comes Brad O'Leary's "The Audacity of Deceit," which focuses on what can be surmised from his record about Obama's domestic policy prescriptions as president. Among the conclusions drawn by O'Leary, the author of 11 books and a successful media and marketing entrepreneur:

Obama will be a radical on the abortion issue as signaled by his blocking of emergency medical aid for babies who survive abortion;

Obama will attempt to ban the use of firearms for defense by law-abiding citizens;

Obama will raise tax rates up to 60 percent;

Obama will "transform the U.S. Treasury into the United Nations' ATM";

Obama will encourage high fuel prices and will remove more farmland from production;

Obama will raise the percentage of Americans who pay no taxes at all, from 30 percent to 40 percent – at the expense of those who do.

Obama will transfer child-rearing responsibility and authority from parents to the federal government with his "0 to 5" program.

Finish reading this at: WND

bibleprobe1(R)

08.21.2008

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Unearthed transcript shows Obama backed infanticide

Unearthed transcript shows Obama backed infanticide

Has insisted his concern was abortion rights, but floor comments in 2002 contradict claim

Posted: August 21, 2008
2:14 pm Eastern

© 2008 WorldNetDaily

Sen. Barack Obama has insisted he did not back a state bill protecting babies born alive from failed abortions because it would undermine Roe vs. Wade, but a newly unearthed transcript of his arguments from the floor of the Illinois Senate indicate otherwise.

Arguing against the Illinois Born Alive Infant Protection Act in 2002, after even Planned Parenthood had dropped its opposition, Obama expressed concern that the bill might burden abortionists, reports blogger Erick Erickson on RedState.com.

Erikson, noting Obama was the only lawmaker to speak out against the protective measure, summarized the senator's concern this way: "Let's trust the guy who just botched the abortion to determine whether or not he actually did botch the abortion."

According to the transcript, Obama said:

As I understand it, this puts the burden on the attending physician who has determined, since they were performing this procedure, that, in fact, this is a nonviable fetus; that if that fetus, or child – however way you want to describe it – is now outside the mother's womb and the doctor continues to think that it's nonviable but there's, let's say, movement or some indication that, in fact, they're not just coming out limp and dead, that, in fact, they would then have to call a second physician to monitor and check off and make sure that this is not a live child that could be saved.
Erickson points out that when the Illinois legislation came up in 2001, Obama was concerned about its impact on abortion rights. But when the bill resurfaced in 2002, that issue had been redressed.

Finish reading this at: World Net Daily

bibleprobe1(R)

08.22.2008

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Planned Parenthood promotes casual sex to kids on website

Planned Parenthood promotes casual sex to kids on website

All in the name of preventing sexually transmitted diseases =

Posted: August 21, 2008
1:00 am Eastern

© 2008 WorldNetDaily

A website sponsored by Planned Parenthood, the biggest player in America's billion dollar abortion industry, is promoting oral sex and casual encounters in the name of encouraging the prevention of sexually transmitted diseases, critics say.

"This website is engineered to reach the youth of America and undoubtedly will be featured in their health curriculum that is in many of our public school systems," warned Rev. Clenard H. Childress Jr., of the Life Education And Resource Network.

The organization specifically cited a video that appears to have a black youth performing oral sex on a white youth, under the supervision of a white guidance counselor.

"It is obvious the deliberate depravation and systemic racism of Planned Parenthood continues to reach new levels of disgust," he said.

In an e-mail to WND, J. Matt Barber, the director of cultural affairs for Liberty Counsel, called the "public service" vignettes "unbelievably offensive."

A review of the promotional videos created by Planned Parenthood show the following scenarios:

A girl who appears only from the waist up appears to drop her slacks to the floor, then asks a second girl, a third girl, and a boy, "Do you see anything down there?" The counselor advises her to get a test for STDs.

Two girls, a guy and the counselor talk about what HPV means. The teens' guess is a reference to a sex organ.

A white youth appears only from the waist up, then a black youth suddenly stands up in front of him, and the white youth says, "I didn't spew."

A girl says, "I like me. I like spending time with me. It's not like I can get me pregnant or give me diseases."

The theme song gives the message, "Whatever you call it, you've got to know how to take care of it."

Finish reading this at: World Net Daily

bibleprobe1(R)

08.25.2008
(edited by bibleprobe1, 08.25.2008)

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Muslims see Barak Hussein Obama as a Muslim or ex-Muslim

Obama through Muslim eyes

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Aug 25, 2008
Obama through Muslim eyes
By DANIEL PIPES

How do Muslims see Barack Obama? They have three choices: either as he presents himself, as one who has "never been a Muslim" and has "always been a Christian"; or as a fellow Muslim; or as an apostate from Islam.

Reports suggests that while Americans generally view the Democratic candidate having had no religion before converting at Rev. Jeremiah Wrights's hands at 27, Muslims the world over rarely see him as Christian but usually as either Muslim or ex-Muslim.

Lee Smith of the Hudson Institute explains why: "Barack Obama's father was Muslim and therefore, according to Islamic law, so is the candidate. In spite of the Koranic verses explaining that there is no compulsion in religion, a Muslim child takes the religion of his or her father... For Muslims around the world, non-American Muslims at any rate, they can only ever see Barack Hussein Obama as a Muslim."

In addition, his school record from Indonesia lists him as a Muslim. Thus, an Egyptian newspaper, Al-Masri al-Youm, refers to his "Muslim origins." Libyan ruler Muammar Gaddafi referred to Obama as "a Muslim" and a person with an "African and Islamic identity." One Al-Jazeera analysis calls him a "non-Christian man," a second refers to his "Muslim Kenyan" father, and a third, by Naseem Jamali, notes that "Obama may not want to be counted as a Muslim, but Muslims are eager to count him as one of their own."

A conversation in Beirut, quoted in the Christian Science Monitor, captures the puzzlement. "He has to be good for Arabs because he is a Muslim," observed a grocer. "He's not a Muslim, he's a Christian," replied a customer. Retorted the grocer: "He can't be a Christian. His middle name is Hussein." Arabic discussions of Obama sometimes mention his middle name as a code, with no further comment needed.

"The symbolism of a major American presidential candidate with the middle name of Hussein, who went to elementary school in Indonesia," reports Tamara Cofman Wittes of the Brookings Institution from a US-Muslim conference in Qatar, "that certainly speaks to Muslims abroad."

Thomas L. Friedman of The New York Times found that Egyptians "don't really understand Obama's family tree, but what they do know is that if America - despite being attacked by Muslim militants on 9/11 - were to elect as its president some guy with the middle name 'Hussein,' it would mark a sea change in America-Muslim world relations."

Some American Muslim leaders also perceive Obama as Muslim. The president of the Islamic Society of North America, Sayyid M. Syeed, told Muslims at a conference in Houston that whether Obama wins or loses, his candidacy will reinforce the idea that Muslim children can "become the presidents of this country." The Nation of Islam's Louis Farrakhan called Obama "the hope of the entire world" and compared him to his religion's founder, Fard Muhammad.

Finish reading this at: Jerusalem Post

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BARACK HUSSAIN OBAMA's Name On Birth Certificate is Barry Soetoro?

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Is Obama's candidacy constitutional?

April 2008 – THE SECRET LIFE OF BARACK OBAMA

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"A glimpse of the real Obama" by Joseph Farah

"Is Obama the messiah?" by Jerome R. Corsi, on the wave of transcendent fervor over the Democratic candidate

"Swooning supporters fainting at rallies" – the EMTs move it, the candidate at the ready with a water bottle – is it fakery or fanaticism?

"Obamania" by Mary Jo Anderson, on how liberal lives find "meaning"

"The story behind Obama's rise to power" by Jane Chastain, on the rapid and dramatic transformation from state legislator to presidential candidate, with a little help from his friends

"Our first Muslim president?" by Robert Spencer. Many wonder how Obama's Islamic youth would affect his leadership of U.S.

"Tracking Obama's shifting Iraq positions" by Ed Lasky, an in-depth look at how the candidate has repeatedly changed his war stance to win voter approval

"Barack abandons pro-Palestinian stance" by Jerome R. Corsi, on how Muslim critics charge Obama has undergone a Middle East make-over to make himself electable

"Obama pledges support for radical 'gay' agenda" by Art Moore, revealing the senator's little-known letter to the 'LGBT community' affirming he would dump the Defense of Marriage Act

"Using the Sermon on the Mount to defend gay rights"

"Can a Catholic vote for Obama?" by Jack Cashill. "The first thing I'd do as president," Obama told a pro-abortion group, "is sign the Freedom of Choice Act"

"Not God bless, but 'God d--- America!'" Obama's long-time minister Jeremiah Wright also blames the U.S. for 9/11 and AIDS

"Senator's church published Hamas terror manifesto," by Aaron Klein, in which Rev. Wright compares the charter calling for the murder of Jews to the Declaration of Independence

"A brief for whitey" by Patrick J. Buchanan, asking Obama: We hear the criticism toward America, but where's the appreciation?

"Obama mentor identified as communist." Surprise, Frank Marshall Davis, another key influence on the Chicago senator was obsessed with "American imperialism, colonialism, exploitation"

"Obama's 'unity' is not what it seems" by Dennis Prager, who says the candidate's core message, though eloquent, is both dishonest and childish

"The new Jimmy Carter" by Bruce Walker. The title says it all.

"Obama speaks!" by Larry Elder, a hilarious parody of an Obama speech

bibleprobe1(R)

08.25.2008
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Obama’s says 'Muslim Call To Prayers', is "one of the prettiest sounds"

Obama’s Muslim Call To Prayers
August 22, 2008

It is being reported today that Nicholas Kristof of the New York Times has in his possession a tape recording of an interview he once had with Barack Obama that may be very damaging to the latter’s campaign for the presidency.

The tape (and the transcript of it) stem from a February 27, 2007 visit Kristof paid to Obama’s senate offices. A column Kristof wrote based upon this interview appeared in the New York Times on March 6, 2007.

What may be damning about the interview, the transcript of it and—especially—the original tape recording is that Obama allegedly provided Kristof with a recitation from memory of the Muslim call to prayer in Arabic. One of Obama’s cousins in Africa has stated in the recent past that Obama was, indeed, once a Muslim. Kristof’s interview records may prove this more definitively.

Columnist Nicholas Kristof of the New Your Times asked Obama about his Islamic education.

After acknowledging that he once got in trouble for making faces during Koran study classes at his school in Indonesia, Obama recited for Kristoff the opening lines of the Muslim call to prayer.

The opening lines of the Adhan [Muslim call to prayer], translated, read as follows:

Allah is supreme ! Allah is supreme !

Allah is supreme ! Allah is supreme !

I witness that there is no God but Allah.

I witness that there is no God but Allah.

I witness that Muhammad is his prophet.

Kristof said Obama recited the prayer “with a first rate accent,” and that, “Mr. Obama described the Muslim call to prayer as ‘one of the prettiest sounds on earth at sunset.”

Would Mr. Obama tell the families of, millions of Christians in the Middle East, the two million Armenians, the eighty million Hindus, let alone many others to mention who have been massacred by Muslims, all along the 1400 centuries, that what their loved ones heard while being slaughtered, is “One of the prettiest sounds on Earth?”

The deadliest Islamic lie. Islam denies the crucifixion, death and resurrection of Christ:

Any one that denies the crucifixion of Jesus, very simply destroys the foundation and the raison d’être of Christianity. No crucifixion means no salvation, no salvation means Jesus is a liar, and if Jesus is a liar, then all Christianity is a fraud. Elementary my dear Watson. I’m also saying this for the Christians that swallow the Islamic deception of “We believe like you in Issa (Jesus) but not the crucified one”, and the gullible Christians take this as a sign of love with almost tears in their eyes, not realizing that the Muslim in effect is telling you, “your Christianity is false and garbage, since Jesus was not crucified.” The perfection in deception is when they say, “we believe like you.” RE: http://www.sonsofapesandpigs.org/2008/03/hussein-obama-update-allah-akb.html

Koran 4:157, “That they said (in boast), ‘We killed Al-Masih 'Isa the son of Maryam, the Messenger of Allah’; but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not.”

Islam's curse on Christians for believing Jesus is God's son:

Koran 9:30
The Jews call 'Uzayr-a son of God', and the Christinas call 'Christ the Son Of God'. That is a saying from their mouth; (In this) they but intimate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are decluded away from the Truth.

Muslims commanded to kill non-Muslims:

Koran 47:4
When you meet the unbelievers in the Jihad strike off their heads and, when you have laid them low, bind your captives firmly. Then grant them their freedom or take ransom from them, until War shall lay down her burdens.

Koran 5:51
Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends. They are friends with one another. Whoever of you seeks their friendship shall become one of their number. Allah does not guide the wrong-doers.

According to Islam's fake Qur'an (Koran), Christians teach perverse doctrines. Christ's Sonship is the prime example (9:30). Christians made a prophet out to be their Lord, ascribing deity to him, committing the supreme blasphemy (3:79,80; 4:48,171; 5:17; 9:31). Any reference to the Trinity is included in this. Christians disobey their own Book, stress falsehoods in their religion, and exaggerate in their teaching (5:66,77; 4:171). Monasticism and saint worship are condemned (57:27; 9:31). According to Islam, before Muhammad came, Christians were lost in error. Islam and the Qur'an are the only remedies (98:1).

The Qur'an warns Muslims about friendship with Christians. As a general rule Muslims are not to take Christians for friends, especially over Muslims (3:118; 4:144; 5:51,57). The only exception given is if you need to have them as your friend to guard your own security (3:28).


Further reading:

NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF admits the truth of this in his article here. He writes about his interview with Obama: "he told me last year, on the record, that 'the Muslim call to prayer is one of the prettiest sounds on earth at sunset'”.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/09/opinion/09kristof.html

http://sayanythingblog.com/readers/entry/obamas_muslim_call_to_prayers/

http://www.sonsofapesandpigs.org/2008/03/hussein-obama-update-allah-akb.html

"Muhammad, Terrorist or Prophet?"
http://bibleprobe.com/muhammad.htm

bibleprobe1(R)

08.26.2008

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Barak Hussein Obama's link to unrepentant terrorist : William Ayers

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"The fact that Barack Obama chose to launch his political career at the home of an unrepentant terrorist raises more questions about Senator Obama's judgment than any TV ad ever could," McCain spokesman Brian Rogers said.

Ayers has admitted to involvement in the bombings of U.S. governmental buildings in the 1970s.

"I don't regret setting bombs. I feel we didn't do enough," he told the New York Times in an interview released Sept. 11, 2001

"Everything was absolutely ideal on the day I bombed the Pentagon," Ayers wrote in his memoirs, "Fugitive Days."

Ayers is married to another notorious Weathermen terrorist, Bernadine Dohrn, who also has served on panels with Obama. Dohrn, once on the FBI's Top 10 Most Wanted List, was described by J. Edgar Hoover as the "most dangerous woman in America." Ayers and Dohrn raised the son of Weathermen terrorist Kathy Boudin, who was serving a sentence for participating in a 1981 murder and robbery that left four people dead.

The American Issues Project ad says, "Barack Obama is friends with Ayers, defending him as, quote, 'Respectable' and 'Mainstream.' Obama's political career was launched in Ayers' home. And the two served together on a left-wing board. Why would Barack Obama be friends with someone who bombed the Capitol and is proud of it? Do you know enough to elect Barack Obama?"

Read more at: World Net Daily